Thursday, August 9, 2012

Just Another Day At The Park....With Assault Added For Good Measure!

Alexander Muir park at Yonge & Lawrence was soooo fun today. Here's the scoop :

Today my friend and I were heading back to our car when all of a sudden we spotted a jogger retreating into the bushes from our dogs (I had four pooches as did my friend). Evidently this jogger has threatened another walker a few weeks back when her two dogs came within 20 or so feet of him. He threatened her by stating he would stab the dogs.

As he was in the bushes he screamed at us to put our dogs on leashes (not all of them were). We called the dogs to come over to us, told the man not to worry that they were all friendly, and apologized to him, asking him to please stay where he was while we did so. Before we could act any further he grabbed a very large branch from the woods and began violently swinging it at the dogs' heads and bodies. Naturally some of the dogs got defensive and began barking at the man, backing away as he swung at them. My friend & I thought it best to put all the dogs in our cars so we proceeded to the vehicles. We though it was over......

Until the man picked up two or more smaller thick branches (he still had the six foot branch in his hand) and began charging at us and throwing the smaller pieces of wood at us and the dogs, hitting one dog in the head and my friend in the shoulder (all are ok). We got all but three dogs into the cars. One Lab mix and two Yorkies slipped out of their collars and ran for dear life. The man in the meantime chased after them in the hopes of seriously harming them. They got away so he turned his attention of us. I acted on impulse and approached him quite angrily telling him to be so bold as to attempt to attack me rather than the defenseless dogs and my friend (who by the way is a smaller younger lady). He started to leave so I tuned my back on him (I know, not a good idea, nor was telling him off) and proceeded to call the police. He ran back toward me ready to hit me (along with another female walker who was now a witness.....thank you so so much Linda for your assistance!)), but when I turned around he stopped. I informed him I was talking to the police and that they could hear his every word and threat. When he heard me describing his appearance over the phone, he ran away very quickly (he IS a jogger after all).

The police came, searched the area and took our statements. Meanwhile for a little over an hour the three of us were desperately and frantically searching for the three dogs who ran out of fear. Long story short, they all actually ran to their homes (dogs are AMAZING!!!).

So here's the deal.....if you see a jogger of foreign descent (I thought he might be Italian while my friend believes he may have been from Eastern Europe....shows you how cultured I am) with average build, white knee socks, and blue jogging shorts in the park or area, be very careful. The authorities now have him on record even though the three dispatched cars were unsuccessful in finding him.

So......how was your day?

A quick update :

Today I heard from a friend who was talking to a man who regularly walks in the Sherwood park off-leash area. He said that a year ago, the same individual chose to jog through the off leash area and when the man's Lab came within 20 feet of him, the jogger picked up a rock and threw it at the Lab. I'm not making this point to "excuse" myself from NOT being in an off-leash area yesterday (feel free to lash out at me in the comments, as a few others have...), I'm making it to demonstrate that clearly this individual is one who goes to efforts to instigate any conflict with a dog handler (be it walker or parent). I would recommend that anyone who runs into this individual in the future to immediately call the police.

25 comments:

  1. Sounds like the guy in the rosedale ravine who runs with a log threatening to swing if any dog comes near him.

    Sorry about your day, but glad all dogs made their way home safely.

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  2. Wow how scary for you. So glad that dogs are safe...wow!

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  3. Sorry but there is no excuse for losing dogs. Cig the harnesses are in tightly enough, they would not have been able to "slip" out of them. These dog's were lucky not to have gotten hit by cars or otherwise harmed.

    I have yet to meet a walker that I fully trust with never EVER. Losing my precious canine family members.

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  4. thetorontopetdailyAugust 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Thanks Joe...already commented & apologized....what would you say we do about this guy who threw a rock at a dog in a leashed in park....

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  5. In response to the comments about having the dogs off-leash, that's not the point of the story. The attacker went after the dogs AFTER they were leashed and under control of their owners.
    I own a dog that needs space and I hate that people have off-leash dogs on city streets, parks, and walkways. My dog shouldn't be restricted from using a public area because people can't follow by-laws. Having said that, I have no problem with people having their dogs off-leash if they have complete verbal control. Those owners accept the risk of having their dog run up to a person or dog that may cause harm to them. It still doesn't give a person the right to chase and physically assault a dog.

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  6. thetorontopetdailyAugust 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Exactly right Lauren...that was the exact point of the story....there's a crazy in the neighbourhood. I understand people want to comment on the other aspect, and that the two aren't mutually exclusive, but in this case there's a far bigger concern than leashed dogs.

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  7. I have to agree with Laurie - while there is NO excuse for this guy - NONE - he is obviously a complete nutbar - I too have real problems with people walking their dogs in designated leash areas without leaches - becuase contrary to what most claim, they HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEIR DOGS. I really don't give a damn if they're friendly; the reality is that my dogs are NOT - they are rescue shepherds, very well trained and not innately aggressive, but due to past abuse, they are not 100% with everyone and everything. Which is why I keep them safely leashed - but an unleasched dog running up to them may cause issues - no matter how "friendly" that dog is. Further, there is enough baggage to carry in this city with people who hate dogs through prejudice, culture, religious issues, fear, whatever - we need to be vigilent and to be responsible dog-owners. Thta is why there are off-leash parks. Bottom line is not everyone is crazy like me, you and many others and LOVE them all, regardless and as responsibile dog owners, we have to respect that. Having said that, I hope they catch Crazy Jogger Guy.

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  8. wrong name... I meant to say I agree with Tango

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  9. Laurie you obviously have no concept of what it feels like to have to (usually with futile results) yell out at people "please keep your dog away from mine, please call your dog, please put your dog on leash, please come and get your dog" every 3 min every time you walk your dog in one of these places which we all should be able to enjoy.

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  10. Tango, you referred to the person at Sunnybrook as a whacko but closed your comment suggesting you have considered engaging in similar behaviour. Weird, maybe we have a few maladjusted people in the neighbourhood. Having a fear of dogs is irrational and not to be encouraged. So is an irrational fear of spiders. Just silliness.

    Yes I understand city bylaws cover off-leash areas. People break bylaws sometimes. They just do. Tango, do you follow all the rules? Should parking authority have sticks in case your meter runs out?

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  11. Glad you and the dogs are ok. We had a whacko like that at Sunnybrook a few years ago, he would actually hang out in the bushes and attack the dogs with a stick, it was pretty scary, but I'm really not that surprised at these people, I'm actually amazed there aren't more of them. It is very annoying to have people walk their dogs off leash on on-leash paths especially when 99.9% of those people really do not have control over their dogs. It really is a moot point if the dog is friendly if you're scared of dogs or if you're walking a dog reactive dog. If the dog is mild mannered and is just trotting beside you anyways why is it such a hassle to have that dog on leash? Is it that much effort to hold a leash that weighs a few grams? It's inconsiderate and imposingly selfish. If you can't relate to some one not wanting to have your cute bundle of pride and joy approach them, imagine if people routinely let their pet giant spiders or snakes come up to your for cuddles while you're out walking because they love their pet and think so should you. The boardwalk in the evenings is horrible for that, I almost want to carry a stick some times myself!

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  12. I heard a very similar story happened in Sherwood Park 3 weeks ago (approximate). The description of the person matched what you described as well. One day he's going to run into the wrong person with their dogs if he keeps it up... and I'm not sure his sticks will be enough to save him.

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  13. Wow. Crazy. Glad everyone is okay. Two wrongs do not make a right. Even though pooches were off-leash the sensible thing to do would have been to wait for the dogs to be leashed. Really, if you have an honest problem or fear of the off-leash dogs a "verbal lashing" is all that's needed. No reason to grab a stick and attempt assault on the dogs (which is asking to get bit), and even if you actually thought you were protecting yourself from the dogs attempting to assault the HUMAN WHO'S BACK IS TURNED is in no way self defence.

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  14. thetorontopetdailyAugust 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    It's funny because I hate when off leash dogs run at people, yet today I was the one responsible! I will say though the circumstances were a bit extraordinary. When these same dogs approach someone & they don't appear to be welcoming, I'll call them & they'll come right back. But of course I'll be the first to admit what so many are thinking : "This wouldn't have happened if they were on leash!" Lesson learned....like you say, so long as everybody's ok. :)

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  15. thetorontopetdailyAugust 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Thanks Tango, & yup you are right.....my mistake for having some of them off leash. I did so because those are the ones who stick to themselves, but in retrospect when someone comes out of the bushes waving a big branch at them that's not likely to happen is it?

    I just like to give them the option to walk on their own, plus those extra grams are heavy! Kidding, you are right that it is imposing and I'm sticking to the off-leash areas from now on.

    I remember that Sunnybrook guy...

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  16. Wow, I was in Sherwood park today with my pooch- glad i did not run into this jerk! ALL of the dogs I've had the pleasure of meeting are so gentle and sweet and although some of the path is not off leash, many of us do allow our dogs some cherished freedom- Dogs desrve this and there is hardly any space for this in the city. In my opinion, if you are afraid of dogs then jog along the streets, not near an off leash park- and Sherwood is in part off-leash. Amazing the dogs made it home- yay!

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  17. Put your damn dogs on leashes and shut the hell up.

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  18. @Joe you're an ass. The writer already apologized for the dogs not being on leash. The jogger does not have the right to harm the dogs or the humans. The dogs did not start anything nor harmed the jogger.

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  19. rulesareforeveryoneAugust 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    As terrible a situation as this must have been, I think it must be pointed out the unless this was an off leash park then ALL of the dogs should have been leashed. Lets obey Ontario leash laws and keep our dogs close to us to help protect them from the crazy world out there.

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  20. thetorontopetdailyAugust 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    @rulesareforeveryone you are exactly right. I actually meant to write that it was NOT an off leash park but in the heat of writing honestly forgot to. I accept full responsibility for doing so. You make a great point.

    BTW posted separately as for some reason the reply function didn't work...

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  21. Of everything you just read here, you pick up on "foreign jogger?" Really.

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  22. What, now we have to be PC about some jerk who goes round attacking people and animals in public places? I'm glad you, your friend and the dogs are all ok.

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  23. thetorontopetdailyAugust 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    You are right Guy....that comes across very insensitively....not my intention. I'll correct it. I think "foreign descent" is appropriate no?

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  24. now, what exactly do you mean by "foreign" jogger?

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